FANDOM


  • Fatal Disease
    Fatal Disease closed this thread because:
    Dead thread; Cliches have already been made.
    16:59, March 28, 2014

    Ok, this needs addressed, and it needs addressed now.

    Since we got our whole banned cliche list, we haven't seen too many problems; that is, except for one.

    People don't seem to realize: Hyper-realistic and all of its variants are NOT ALLOWED IN YOUR WRITING. You're told to read the Site Rules. The Blacklisted subjects are in the Site Rules. Said list has the list of banned cliches linked to it up top. And best of all, the Site Rules are in a TABBED. VIEW. So there is no excuse as to why you couldn't read them.

    So far, I've encountered somewhere between 3-5 stories in the past 2 weeks, give or take, containing banned cliches.

    It is not our job to do your creativity. Stories I find with banned cliches will be deleted. If it isn't a bad number of cliches, I'll drop a link to pastebin in the reason box.

    Cliches ruin the story almost immediately. Please don't put them in your work.

    Cliches are evil. Bad, Bad, cliches.

      Loading editor
    • Listen, I know what you're doing here. The Spinpasta Wikia has needed overhauls for a while because it's reputation was shit. Wasn't it worse than Trollpasta's at one point? But, can we make this temporary or "until further notice?" It bugs me that we're going to delete stories just because they're mediocre. Not unreadable, just really medicore. It's a little too subjective to make this a permanent thing for me. My opinion.

        Loading editor
    • This is why I like to leave any cliches out of my Stroies completely unless I have no choice in the matter.

      Cliches always ruin stories when they aren't used correctly; so maybe there should be a help page that explains how to use them correctly that will bennifit the story.

        Loading editor
    • I, Da Cashman wrote: Listen, I know what you're doing here. The Spinpasta Wikia has needed overhauls for a while because it's reputation was shit. Wasn't it worse than Trollpasta's at one point? But, can we make this temporary or "until further notice?" It bugs me that we're going to delete stories just because they're mediocre. Not unreadable, just really medicore. It's a little too subjective to make this a permanent thing for me. My opinion.

      I'm not attempting to ban mediocrity. These cliches (hyper-realistic blood, zalgo eyes, etc.) have been banned for a while here.

      Again, these rules aren't just something pulled out of our asses; they're meant to encourage creativity and put a stop to lazy writing.

      We can't just allow it; it's like this. You stick hyper-realism in your pasta and BOOM. Instant horror story. But after a while, it's trite, and very boring.

        Loading editor
    • OOOO, I hate it when they're like: "DA BLUD LOOKED HYPER REALISTIC" Luckily, I've never really had a lot of cliches in my stories. BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN I DON'T HATE THEM!

        Loading editor
    • For me, we should ban ALL of the clichês that appear in Creepypastas, hell, maybe just straight ban File Extension pastas, since they're filled with clichês, specially after Sonic.exe and BEN DROWNED appeared.

      I think this wiki should be just like Creepypasta Wiki itself, but with spin-offs, well, mostly about spin-offs (but you can still make your own stories here, obviously) but it will be spin-offs about GOOD pastas, like that one pasta that I heard that it's preety good, The Russian Sleep Experiment, and etc.

      Now, I have some subjects here that are also filled with cliches and maybe should be banned.

      • Jeff-Inspired (I don't mean Jeff the Killer himself, I mean those pastas where they put their own name followed by "The Killer", for example: "Duck The Killer")
      • File Extensions (Do I need to say anything more?)
      • Ben Drowned (Ben was actually forgotten by everyone, but I still think it should be banned)

      I didn't memorize the blacklisted subjects, so some of these three (if not all the three subjects) are already banned...

        Loading editor
    • Rickomarow wrote: For me, we should ban ALL of the clichês that appear in Creepypastas, hell, maybe just straight ban File Extension pastas, since they're filled with clichês, specially after Sonic.exe and BEN DROWNED appeared.

      I think this wiki should be just like Creepypasta Wiki itself, but with spin-offs, well, mostly about spin-offs (but you can still make your own stories here, obviously) but it will be spin-offs about GOOD pastas, like that one pasta that I heard that it's preety good, The Russian Sleep Experiment, and etc.

      Now, I have some subjects here that are also filled with cliches and maybe should be banned.

      • Jeff-Inspired (I don't mean Jeff the Killer himself, I mean those pastas where they put their own name followed by "The Killer", for example: "Duck The Killer")
      • File Extensions (Do I need to say anything more?)
      • Ben Drowned (Ben was actually forgotten by everyone, but I still think it should be banned)

      I didn't memorize the blacklisted subjects, so some of these three (if not all the three subjects) are already banned...

      So far the only actually blacklisted spin-off is Sonic.exe. Jeff-Inspired is being considered because people can't (or don't know how) to not follow too closely to the original JEFF formula.

      File extensions are going to be considered, and sadly, Lost Episodes as well. (Lost Episodes are also a nest for cliches.)

      BEN, though... Idk about Ben. I'll have to take a look.

        Loading editor
    • When it comes to the "Jeff-inspired" subject; I just wanted to say that there re alot of Jeff the killer stories that don't have too many cliches in them. For instance I just wrote a Jeff the killer story myself called Will You Go to Sleep Tonight? Along with a file page on Jeff himself and Jane (who is also in the story).

      I see too much potential in the "Jeff-inspired" subject; so banning it would not be the best choice. To much would be left undone because of it.

      Also the "File Extensions" subject is one of the moments where people don't know how to use the cliches correctly like I mentioned earlier. I use this subject in alot of my stories and I don't want to lose everything I worked hard on.Cliches

      So the big solution here is to let people know how to use cliches properly without killing the story for the reader. I've read and analysed enough Creepy Pasta to understand what makes a good one and what kills it entirely. People need to understand cliches and how it can fix their story or ruin it. So lets show people how it's done.

        Loading editor
    • Megafan321 wrote: When it comes to the "Jeff-inspired" subject; I just wanted to say that there re alot of Jeff the killer stories that don't have too many cliches in them. For instance I just wrote a Jeff the killer story myself called Will You Go to Sleep Tonight? Along with a file page on Jeff himself and Jane (who is also in the story).

      I see too much potential in the "Jeff-inspired" subject; so banning it would not be the best choice. To much would be left undone because of it.

      Also the "File Extensions" subject is one of the moments where people don't know how to use the cliches correctly like I mentioned earlier. I use this subject in alot of my stories and I don't want to lose everything I worked hard on.Cliches

      So the big solution here is to let people know how to use cliches properly without killing the story for the reader. I've read and analysed enough Creepy Pasta to understand what makes a good one and what kills it entirely. People need to understand cliches and how it can fix their story or ruin it. So lets show people how it's done.

      The issue is, even if we attempted to teach people how to use cliches properly, cliches are still cliches.

      Jeff-INSPIRED stories, i.e. they follow the Jeff formula but are not about Jeff or Jane are being considered.

      Jeff stories will not be banned.

      File Extensions, we could probably do something about.

        Loading editor
    • Wow. It's just unbelievable that we're already planning on banning 3 more subjects. There are fans, too, you know. Is there anything I can do to at least let the Lost Episodes category stay? Because I would be very mad if it goes away

        Loading editor
    • Ultimatemetaknight wrote:
      Wow. It's just unbelievable that we're already planning on banning 3 more subjects. There are fans, too, you know. Is there anything I can do to at least let the Lost Episodes category stay? Because I would be very mad if it goes away

      I think the Lost Episodes category will stay, but if we receive too many clichê Lost Episodes, I think we'll have to blacklist it.

      Well, I'm saying what I think, but it depends on what Cal thinks.

        Loading editor
    • Rickomarow wrote:
      Ultimatemetaknight wrote:
      Wow. It's just unbelievable that we're already planning on banning 3 more subjects. There are fans, too, you know. Is there anything I can do to at least let the Lost Episodes category stay? Because I would be very mad if it goes away
      I think the Lost Episodes category will stay, but if we receive too many clichê Lost Episodes, I think we'll have to blacklist it.

      Well, I'm saying what I think, but it depends on what Cal thinks.

      Sigh... If only I could stop some of these cliches.

        Loading editor
    • Rickomarow wrote:
      For me, we should ban ALL of the clichês that appear in Creepypastas, hell, maybe just straight ban File Extension pastas, since they're filled with clichês, specially after Sonic.exe and BEN DROWNED appeared.

      I think this wiki should be just like Creepypasta Wiki itself, but with spin-offs, well, mostly about spin-offs (but you can still make your own stories here, obviously) but it will be spin-offs about GOOD pastas, like that one pasta that I heard that it's preety good, The Russian Sleep Experiment, and etc.

      Now, I have some subjects here that are also filled with cliches and maybe should be banned.

      • Jeff-Inspired (I don't mean Jeff the Killer himself, I mean those pastas where they put their own name followed by "The Killer", for example: "Duck The Killer")
      • File Extensions (Do I need to say anything more?)
      • Ben Drowned (Ben was actually forgotten by everyone, but I still think it should be banned)

      I didn't memorize the blacklisted subjects, so some of these three (if not all the three subjects) are already banned...

      That's hardly fair. You can't ban an entire genre of creepypastas just because a majority of them are poorly-written. By that logic, this site shouldn't exist because the vast majority of creepypastas are terrible works of literature. The target here is cliches and bad writing--not the topics which these things happen by chance to occur the most in. And I don't know that even that's true; I think you're projecting your personal tastes on this whole affair.

      Video game creepypastas are the only ones I'm personally interested in. File extensions (good ones, mind you) in particular are my favorite, and I don't hate lost episode ones either (though they are getting to be overdone). What I do think are terrible and will never read are spin-offs of original creepypastas. I come here for spin-offs of licensed works, not things which were already creepypastas to begin with. That's just my taste, though, and people are free to write creepypasta spin-off stories all they like.

      We should attack lazy writing/lack of creativity in all fields equally, not ban topics. Frankly, I don't agree with Sonic.exe being banned. I only first came here because this is the place where topics banned on Creepypasta go.

        Loading editor
    • Xelrog T. Apocalypse wrote:

      Rickomarow wrote:
      For me, we should ban ALL of the clichês that appear in Creepypastas, hell, maybe just straight ban File Extension pastas, since they're filled with clichês, specially after Sonic.exe and BEN DROWNED appeared.

      I think this wiki should be just like Creepypasta Wiki itself, but with spin-offs, well, mostly about spin-offs (but you can still make your own stories here, obviously) but it will be spin-offs about GOOD pastas, like that one pasta that I heard that it's preety good, The Russian Sleep Experiment, and etc.

      Now, I have some subjects here that are also filled with cliches and maybe should be banned.

      • Jeff-Inspired (I don't mean Jeff the Killer himself, I mean those pastas where they put their own name followed by "The Killer", for example: "Duck The Killer")
      • File Extensions (Do I need to say anything more?)
      • Ben Drowned (Ben was actually forgotten by everyone, but I still think it should be banned)

      I didn't memorize the blacklisted subjects, so some of these three (if not all the three subjects) are already banned...

      That's hardly fair. You can't ban an entire genre of creepypastas just because a majority of them are poorly-written. By that logic, this site shouldn't exist because the vast majority of creepypastas are terrible works of literature. The target here is cliches and bad writing--not the topics which these things happen by chance to occur the most in. And I don't know that even that's true; I think you're projecting your personal tastes on this whole affair.

      Video game creepypastas are the only ones I'm personally interested in. File extensions (good ones, mind you) in particular are my favorite, and I don't hate lost episode ones either (though they are getting to be overdone). What I do think are terrible and will never read are spin-offs of original creepypastas. I come here for spin-offs of licensed works, not things which were already creepypastas to begin with. That's just my taste, though, and people are free to write creepypasta spin-off stories all they like.

      We should attack lazy writing/lack of creativity in all fields equally, not ban topics. Frankly, I don't agree with Sonic.exe being banned. I only first came here because this is the place where topics banned on Creepypasta go.

      Tell that to CP.

      The issue primarily with attacking lazy writing equally in all fields lies in the fact that it is much more present in the fields that were mentioned. In truth, the categories that get banned (for example, Sonic.exe) are banned because the number of stories that get posted end up virtually the same. X happens, Y reaction happens, then Z happens at the end.

      I'm not saying that the said genres are always bad; they're good if they're cooked right. But at the same time; how many original pastas here from the File Extensions category both lacked cliches and were good, not just based off a different pasta?

      Occasionally, the topic itself has to be banned to slow the traffic by which the cliches and bad writing comes. I admit I'm not particularly a fan of doing so, but sometimes it has to be done.

        Loading editor
    • Rickomarow wrote:

      Ultimatemetaknight wrote:
      Wow. It's just unbelievable that we're already planning on banning 3 more subjects. There are fans, too, you know. Is there anything I can do to at least let the Lost Episodes category stay? Because I would be very mad if it goes away

      I think the Lost Episodes category will stay, but if we receive too many clichê Lost Episodes, I think we'll have to blacklist it.

      Well, I'm saying what I think, but it depends on what Cal thinks.

      You're correct on that part. I'm willing to let them stay if they don't invite a crushload of cliches.

        Loading editor
    • Well this went on large. This, people shouldn't be lazy to go read the rules and check the Blacklisted Subjects. IT does, as well, diss me out when the people don't take the time to read them.

      I am not sure all about this cliche stuff. You get to make changes whatever you want. Us admins would we doing as well the things you want to be changed.

      I can't do anything about this cliche-situation for people/fans. :/

        Loading editor
    • ...This is honestly really stupid. We're going to blacklist stories from the spinpasta wikia. Why don't you just make it a creepypasta wikia clone? "Oh, we don't want properties that 99% of the time reap bad stories." Oh, okay, BAN EVERY POPULAR CREEPYPASTA. Like, are you guys serious? Anything that's popular is going to have fan fiction of it. That's the point of this wikia. If it has terrible spelling or grammar, if it's a wall of text, I can understand why it'd get deleted. Or if it's sticking too close to the source material, I can even understand that. But Xelrog T. Apocalypse is completely right in saying that these rules are a projection of personal taste. Sorry, I shouldn't lash out against my own admins, but you guys are basically saying "we only want really good stories here." Really, "what we determine to be good stories." Why would this even be a wiki that everybody can edit and upload their stories to if you don't want what 90% of users will bring to the table? There's a reason we have a Suggested Reading category. So that if anybody just wants to read good pastas, they can go there.

      So here's what I propose:

      Have you ban on the "hyper realistic" phrase. People rarely use that anymore anyways, and anybody who does probably also wrote an unreadable pasta.

      Make a temporary ban on file extension pastas. Maybe a couple months, even a bloody year if you need to. But don't make it permanent.

      Do not outright ban BEN and Jeff-inspired stories. Not not even temporarily ban them. They produce no more bad stuff than other spinoffs. Hell, I belive that straight Jeff/Jane stories produce worse. There is so much potential with Ben and Jeff-ish, and there is no plague relative to all other spinoffs.

      I'm probably gonna get a fuckton of backlash for this comment, maybe even deservedly so, but I cannot stand when people running anything make decisions based on subjective judgments.

        Loading editor
    • I see that you guys are thinking about blacklisting File Extensions and Lost Episodes.

      ....

      Why the hell do you guys even bother call this site "Spinpasta Wiki"? You guys should just call it "Creepypasta Wiki 2" because that's what it's turning into.

      What's next? You guys might as well blacklist Video Game pastas, pastas about various creepypasta monsters, pastas that are sequels to pastas on Creepypasta Wiki, and pastas about TV shows.

      I'm not a big fan of File Extension pastas, or Lost Episodes pastas. But blacklisting them on a site called SPINpasta Wiki; a wiki about creepypasta SPIN-OFFs, is just really bizarre. I understand that File Extension pastas and Lost Episode pastas are most of the time, really cliched, and just very lazy. But can't you guys just delete the really cliched and lazy File Extension, and Lost episode pastas? Not ALL File Extension and Lost Episode pastas are really cliched and very lazy, But like I said, most of them are. So it's really hard to find a decent one. Just delete the really shitty ones. But however, if this problem keeps up for a while, you guys should take action at some point.

      Anyway, I agree with this thread.

        Loading editor
    • I, Da Cashman wrote:
      ...This is honestly really stupid. We're going to blacklist stories from the spinpasta wikia. Why don't you just make it a creepypasta wikia clone? "Oh, we don't want properties that 99% of the time reap bad stories." Oh, okay, BAN EVERY POPULAR CREEPYPASTA. Like, are you guys serious? Anything that's popular is going to have fan fiction of it. That's the point of this wikia. If it has terrible spelling or grammar, if it's a wall of text, I can understand why it'd get deleted. Or if it's sticking too close to the source material, I can even understand that. But Xelrog T. Apocalypse is completely right in saying that these rules are a projection of personal taste. Sorry, I shouldn't lash out against my own admins, but you guys are basically saying "we only want really good stories here." Really, "what we determine to be good stories." Why would this even be a wiki that everybody can edit and upload their stories to if you don't want what 90% of users will bring to the table? There's a reason we have a Suggested Reading category. So that if anybody just wants to read good pastas, they can go there.

      So here's what I propose:

      Have you ban on the "hyper realistic" phrase. People rarely use that anymore anyways, and anybody who does probably also wrote an unreadable pasta.

      Make a temporary ban on file extension pastas. Maybe a couple months, even a bloody year if you need to. But don't make it permanent.

      Do not outright ban BEN and Jeff-inspired stories. Not not even temporarily ban them. They produce no more bad stuff than other spinoffs. Hell, I belive that straight Jeff/Jane stories produce worse. There is so much potential with Ben and Jeff-ish, and there is no plague relative to all other spinoffs.

      I'm probably gonna get a fuckton of backlash for this comment, maybe even deservedly so, but I cannot stand when people running anything make decisions based on subjective judgments.


      I highly agree with everything you said.

        Loading editor
    • ALRIGHT GUYS, I AM SERIOUSLY NOT INTO THIS KIND OF BLACKLIST SITUATION, LIKE I SAID, JUST A NOTE FOR EVERYONE. I never came up with all of this blacklist-plan or anything like that.

        Loading editor
    • I, Da Cashman wrote:
      ...This is honestly really stupid. We're going to blacklist stories from the spinpasta wikia. Why don't you just make it a creepypasta wikia clone? "Oh, we don't want properties that 99% of the time reap bad stories." Oh, okay, BAN EVERY POPULAR CREEPYPASTA. Like, are you guys serious? Anything that's popular is going to have fan fiction of it. That's the point of this wikia. If it has terrible spelling or grammar, if it's a wall of text, I can understand why it'd get deleted. Or if it's sticking too close to the source material, I can even understand that. But Xelrog T. Apocalypse is completely right in saying that these rules are a projection of personal taste. Sorry, I shouldn't lash out against my own admins, but you guys are basically saying "we only want really good stories here." Really, "what we determine to be good stories." Why would this even be a wiki that everybody can edit and upload their stories to if you don't want what 90% of users will bring to the table? There's a reason we have a Suggested Reading category. So that if anybody just wants to read good pastas, they can go there.

      So here's what I propose:

      Have you ban on the "hyper realistic" phrase. People rarely use that anymore anyways, and anybody who does probably also wrote an unreadable pasta.

      Make a temporary ban on file extension pastas. Maybe a couple months, even a bloody year if you need to. But don't make it permanent.

      Do not outright ban BEN and Jeff-inspired stories. Not not even temporarily ban them. They produce no more bad stuff than other spinoffs. Hell, I belive that straight Jeff/Jane stories produce worse. There is so much potential with Ben and Jeff-ish, and there is no plague relative to all other spinoffs.

      I'm probably gonna get a fuckton of backlash for this comment, maybe even deservedly so, but I cannot stand when people running anything make decisions based on subjective judgments.

      Look, I don't know what made Calasan's mind pop up to cliche/blacklisted such and to hit it on the wiki, this thread seems to be going through and pretty fine, telling some of that honesty. I agree with your comment Cashman, but like I said earlier we can't do anything about it.

      I thought this was Spinpasta Wiki too, the place to-OH, BETTER YET, Creepypasta Wiki does not allow blacklisted/spin-offs of any kind, why not here if this wiki was made probably basically for some blacklisted stories, or spin-offs of any kind??? That is a question waiting to be answered.

      I'm not trying to be rude or harsh, I should of addressed this a long while ago. I didn't have a problem with any of the blacklisted stories or such.

      RE: "but you guys are basically saying "we only want really good stories here."

      Not me, not even anyone in the wiki. You know, I never thought this would happen.

      Anyways, I won't do anything else. I can't do anything about it. Calasan wants this to be it, what else is next?

        Loading editor
    • Since this wiki is turning into a CPW clone, lets make "Spinpasta Wiki 2"! Spinpasta Wiki 2 will have spin-offs, including Lost Episodes and .exe pastas!

        Loading editor
    • And, this is the very reason why I basically hate uploading any of my work here. Every story is bound to have cliches, and a lot of pastas will have to have certain cliches to make sense. That's why I'll rather keep my work on deviantART instead.

        Loading editor
    • CalasanX wrote:

      Rickomarow wrote:

      Ultimatemetaknight wrote:
      Wow. It's just unbelievable that we're already planning on banning 3 more subjects. There are fans, too, you know. Is there anything I can do to at least let the Lost Episodes category stay? Because I would be very mad if it goes away

      I think the Lost Episodes category will stay, but if we receive too many clichê Lost Episodes, I think we'll have to blacklist it.

      Well, I'm saying what I think, but it depends on what Cal thinks.

      You're correct on that part. I'm willing to let them stay if they don't invite a crushload of cliches.

      Really? Can I do something to give that a little boost or something? Because I'd hate it if this wiki gets as strict as CP. Please, LET ME KNOW IF I CAN HELP WITH THESE CLICHES!

        Loading editor
    • Should we put this up to a vote on what we should do?

      There are equal amounts of people who both like and dislike certain cliches and subjects.

      This will take alot of thought to figure out.

        Loading editor
    • Ok, for crying out loud! I am not the bad guy here!

      Sonic.exe was banned. So far, that's it! The decision made on the others is open for discussion, not a judgement made specifically by me. Contrare to some opinions (Meta, Cashman, Godzilla) I DON'T like telling people that they CAN'T write a story.

      But sometimes it gets just a little hard to keep a story when people sit there and say "Well. Let's make it EXACTLY like the original story." Every story has potential. Is that potential used by all stories? No.

      I have not once said every story from a blacklisted subject was terrible or cliche - hell, I wrote Jeff-Inspired stories!

      But keep in mind, even a spin-off wiki has to consider a blacklist. If you get too many of one story, then you might as well head the opposite extreme - call it the "Ben" wiki, call it the Jeff wiki, hell, call it hyper-realistic!

      And the cliches HAVE BEEN banned for at least two months now.

        Loading editor
    • Ultimatemetaknight wrote:

      CalasanX wrote:

      Rickomarow wrote:

      Ultimatemetaknight wrote:
      Wow. It's just unbelievable that we're already planning on banning 3 more subjects. There are fans, too, you know. Is there anything I can do to at least let the Lost Episodes category stay? Because I would be very mad if it goes away

      I think the Lost Episodes category will stay, but if we receive too many clichê Lost Episodes, I think we'll have to blacklist it.

      Well, I'm saying what I think, but it depends on what Cal thinks.

      You're correct on that part. I'm willing to let them stay if they don't invite a crushload of cliches.

      Really? Can I do something to give that a little boost or something? Because I'd hate it if this wiki gets as strict as CP. Please, LET ME KNOW IF I CAN HELP WITH THESE CLICHES!

      Go ahead.

        Loading editor
    • CalasanX wrote:

      Xelrog T. Apocalypse wrote:

      Rickomarow wrote:
      For me, we should ban ALL of the clichês that appear in Creepypastas, hell, maybe just straight ban File Extension pastas, since they're filled with clichês, specially after Sonic.exe and BEN DROWNED appeared.

      I think this wiki should be just like Creepypasta Wiki itself, but with spin-offs, well, mostly about spin-offs (but you can still make your own stories here, obviously) but it will be spin-offs about GOOD pastas, like that one pasta that I heard that it's preety good, The Russian Sleep Experiment, and etc.

      Now, I have some subjects here that are also filled with cliches and maybe should be banned.

      • Jeff-Inspired (I don't mean Jeff the Killer himself, I mean those pastas where they put their own name followed by "The Killer", for example: "Duck The Killer")
      • File Extensions (Do I need to say anything more?)
      • Ben Drowned (Ben was actually forgotten by everyone, but I still think it should be banned)

      I didn't memorize the blacklisted subjects, so some of these three (if not all the three subjects) are already banned...

      That's hardly fair. You can't ban an entire genre of creepypastas just because a majority of them are poorly-written. By that logic, this site shouldn't exist because the vast majority of creepypastas are terrible works of literature. The target here is cliches and bad writing--not the topics which these things happen by chance to occur the most in. And I don't know that even that's true; I think you're projecting your personal tastes on this whole affair.

      Video game creepypastas are the only ones I'm personally interested in. File extensions (good ones, mind you) in particular are my favorite, and I don't hate lost episode ones either (though they are getting to be overdone). What I do think are terrible and will never read are spin-offs of original creepypastas. I come here for spin-offs of licensed works, not things which were already creepypastas to begin with. That's just my taste, though, and people are free to write creepypasta spin-off stories all they like.

      We should attack lazy writing/lack of creativity in all fields equally, not ban topics. Frankly, I don't agree with Sonic.exe being banned. I only first came here because this is the place where topics banned on Creepypasta go.

      Tell that to CP.

      The issue primarily with attacking lazy writing equally in all fields lies in the fact that it is much more present in the fields that were mentioned. In truth, the categories that get banned (for example, Sonic.exe) are banned because the number of stories that get posted end up virtually the same. X happens, Y reaction happens, then Z happens at the end.

      I'm not saying that the said genres are always bad; they're good if they're cooked right. But at the same time; how many original pastas here from the File Extensions category both lacked cliches and were good, not just based off a different pasta?

      Occasionally, the topic itself has to be banned to slow the traffic by which the cliches and bad writing comes. I admit I'm not particularly a fan of doing so, but sometimes it has to be done.

      Most =/= all. As long as there is not an inherent, scientific correlation between two things, it's a generalization--and it's an injustice to act upon them in a position of authority. Suppose one person arrived at this site hoping to post a well-written, original, and cliche-free File Extension pasta, but what should he find but that he's not allowed to post about that topic because a group of other people who he's never met and has no relation to or influence upon have fucked it all up for everyone.

      I understand your position, and that it's tempting to ban the entire topic in order to cut back on traffic and make managing the situation a lot easier. But that's not the answer. And should even one person like the above arrive at this site, an injustice will have occurred.

      You've had plenty of good ideas for quality control in the past--volunteer users who monitor writing, extra regulations on the standards of writing. Banning subjects is not one of these good ideas.

        Loading editor
    • Xelrog T. Apocalypse wrote:

      CalasanX wrote:

      Xelrog T. Apocalypse wrote:

      Rickomarow wrote:
      For me, we should ban ALL of the clichês that appear in Creepypastas, hell, maybe just straight ban File Extension pastas, since they're filled with clichês, specially after Sonic.exe and BEN DROWNED appeared.

      I think this wiki should be just like Creepypasta Wiki itself, but with spin-offs, well, mostly about spin-offs (but you can still make your own stories here, obviously) but it will be spin-offs about GOOD pastas, like that one pasta that I heard that it's preety good, The Russian Sleep Experiment, and etc.

      Now, I have some subjects here that are also filled with cliches and maybe should be banned.

      • Jeff-Inspired (I don't mean Jeff the Killer himself, I mean those pastas where they put their own name followed by "The Killer", for example: "Duck The Killer")
      • File Extensions (Do I need to say anything more?)
      • Ben Drowned (Ben was actually forgotten by everyone, but I still think it should be banned)

      I didn't memorize the blacklisted subjects, so some of these three (if not all the three subjects) are already banned...

      That's hardly fair. You can't ban an entire genre of creepypastas just because a majority of them are poorly-written. By that logic, this site shouldn't exist because the vast majority of creepypastas are terrible works of literature. The target here is cliches and bad writing--not the topics which these things happen by chance to occur the most in. And I don't know that even that's true; I think you're projecting your personal tastes on this whole affair.

      Video game creepypastas are the only ones I'm personally interested in. File extensions (good ones, mind you) in particular are my favorite, and I don't hate lost episode ones either (though they are getting to be overdone). What I do think are terrible and will never read are spin-offs of original creepypastas. I come here for spin-offs of licensed works, not things which were already creepypastas to begin with. That's just my taste, though, and people are free to write creepypasta spin-off stories all they like.

      We should attack lazy writing/lack of creativity in all fields equally, not ban topics. Frankly, I don't agree with Sonic.exe being banned. I only first came here because this is the place where topics banned on Creepypasta go.

      Tell that to CP.

      The issue primarily with attacking lazy writing equally in all fields lies in the fact that it is much more present in the fields that were mentioned. In truth, the categories that get banned (for example, Sonic.exe) are banned because the number of stories that get posted end up virtually the same. X happens, Y reaction happens, then Z happens at the end.

      I'm not saying that the said genres are always bad; they're good if they're cooked right. But at the same time; how many original pastas here from the File Extensions category both lacked cliches and were good, not just based off a different pasta?

      Occasionally, the topic itself has to be banned to slow the traffic by which the cliches and bad writing comes. I admit I'm not particularly a fan of doing so, but sometimes it has to be done.

      Most =/= all. As long as there is not an inherent, scientific correlation between two things, it's a generalization--and it's an injustice to act upon them in a position of authority. Suppose one person arrived at this site hoping to post a well-written, original, and cliche-free File Extension pasta, but what should he find but that he's not allowed to post about that topic because a group of other people who he's never met and has no relation to or influence upon have fucked it all up for everyone.

      I understand your position, and that it's tempting to ban the entire topic in order to cut back on traffic and make managing the situation a lot easier. But that's not the answer. And should even one person like the above arrive at this site, an injustice will have occurred.

      You've had plenty of good ideas for quality control in the past--volunteer users who monitor writing, extra regulations on the standards of writing. Banning subjects is not one of these good ideas.

      I think we all remember when Sonic.exe was banned, correct? I intentionally wrote a loophole in that rule, that if they thought it was good enough to be posted they could use Deletion Appeal until a new Appeal page was created.

      The same rule would apply to File Extensions, Jeff-Inspired, Ben, and Lost Eps should any of them be banned.

      Sure, a person who writes a good pasta shouldn't have to go through that. But understand, that isn't my fault; it's the fault of those who abused the lightly-ruled system by not trying their hardest to produce quality work but instead writing lazily and using the source material as a template.

      I didn't just wake up one day and say "Ban these," I saw the problem that these caused and took the action I could take to ensure Quality and etc.

        Loading editor
    • GodzillaFan1 wrote:
      Since this wiki is turning into a CPW clone, lets make "Spinpasta Wiki 2"! Spinpasta Wiki 2 will have spin-offs, including Lost Episodes and .exe pastas!

      Sure, but while looking at a comment from Megafan:

      Should we put this up to a vote on what we should do?

      There are equal amounts of people who both like and dislike certain cliches and subjects.

      That would be a great idea. The less banned subjects or not at all we have, then the more people we get, and this wiki will meet its fortune.

        Loading editor
    • In any case, I think I've made my point, and you've already seen where consensus lies.

      The topics being suggested for ban form such a huge chunk of this site's material that it's quite a bit sillier than the ban on Sonic.exe was, and if the Appeal form is used for all of these, it's just going to create even more work for you, the staff, at the end of the day.

        Loading editor
    • Metafawker wrote:
      GodzillaFan1 wrote:
      Since this wiki is turning into a CPW clone, lets make "Spinpasta Wiki 2"! Spinpasta Wiki 2 will have spin-offs, including Lost Episodes and .exe pastas!
      Sure, but while looking at a comment from Megafan:

      Should we put this up to a vote on what we should do?

      There are equal amounts of people who both like and dislike certain cliches and subjects.

      That would be a great idea. The less banned subjects or not at all we have, then the more people we get, and this wiki will meet its fortune.


      Fortune = Shitty pastas with bad grammar, bad storyline, cliches and etc.

        Loading editor
    • I think I got a solution.

      Whenever a category gets filled with bad pastas, we should do it like this.

      Make a page/blog whith a poll to vote if the category will be banned or not, and there will be three choices.

      • Permanently ban category <insert category here>
      • Don't ban category <insert category here>
      • Temporarily ban category <insert category here>

      In case the most votes go to option one, the category is permanently banned, in case most votes go to option two, it doesn't get banned, and in case most votes go to option three, there will be another poll asking for how long should the category be banned.

      • Ban category <insert category here> for one month.
      • Ban category < <insert category here> for six months.
      • Ban category <insert category here> for one year.

      That's the only option I see that will satisfy both the community and staff.

        Loading editor
    • Rickomarow wrote: I think I got a solution.

      Whenever a category gets filled with bad pastas, we should do it like this.

      Make a page/blog whith a poll to vote if the category will be banned or not, and there will be three choices.

      • Permanently ban category <insert category here>
      • Don't ban category <insert category here>
      • Temporarily ban category <insert category here>

      In case the most votes go to option one, the category is permanently banned, in case most votes go to option two, it doesn't get banned, and in case most votes go to option three, there will be another poll asking for how long should the category be banned.

      • Ban category <insert category here> for one month.
      • Ban category < <insert category here> for six months.
      • Ban category <insert category here> for one year.

      That's the only option I see that will satisfy both the community and staff.

      That can work. But there can also be issues. Obviously if it's an excessively popular category, there will be more people who say, "No, don't ban it!" when the veterans, people, and others who have been in this for years say "How many of these do we NEED before we draw a line?"

      It can work, but it has to have restrictions.

        Loading editor
    • Fortune = Shitty pastas with bad grammar, bad storyline, cliches and etc.

      Lol, that being said.

      Fortune = More people, 50% more active, more contributions, and, even helpful people who could apply for rights.

        Loading editor
    • Rickomarow wrote:
      I think I got a solution.

      Whenever a category gets filled with bad pastas, we should do it like this.

      Make a page/blog whith a poll to vote if the category will be banned or not, and there will be three choices.

      • Permanently ban category <insert category here>
      • Don't ban category <insert category here>
      • Temporarily ban category <insert category here>

      In case the most votes go to option one, the category is permanently banned, in case most votes go to option two, it doesn't get banned, and in case most votes go to option three, there will be another poll asking for how long should the category be banned.

      • Ban category <insert category here> for one month.
      • Ban category < <insert category here> for six months.
      • Ban category <insert category here> for one year.

      That's the only option I see that will satisfy both the community and staff.

      Hmm... Sounds like a great idea to make this... I think i'll do this but in thhe forums instead.

        Loading editor
    • Metafawker wrote:

      Fortune = Shitty pastas with bad grammar, bad storyline, cliches and etc.

      Lol, that being said.

      Fortune = More people, 50% more active, more contributions, and, even helpful people who could apply for rights.

      More People

      Trolls, writers who believe they are already the best and have no interest to learn how to write, fanboys who believe they don't have to respect admins and users. Why did we disable anon editing again?

      50% More Active

      Statistics have gone up with quality.

      Helpful People who could apply for Rights.

      I can hardly (with due respect) trust the users that are already here who don't have rights to have rights, out of those who have an interest. We go attracting those who I mentioned in the "More People" argument, you might as well be asking me to hand this wiki to the trolls.

        Loading editor
    • More People

      Trolls, writers who believe they are already the best and have no interest to learn how to write, fanboys who believe they don't have to respect admins and users. Why did we disable anon editing again?

      50% More Active

      Statistics have gone up with quality.

      Helpful People who could apply for Rights.

      I can hardly (with due respect) trust the users that are already here who don't have rights to have rights, out of those who have an interest. We go attracting those who I mentioned in the "More People" argument, you might as well be asking me to hand this wiki to the trolls.

      More People:

      You'll never know. It's not everyday that we get trolls all the time. Check out some new few users that are innocent and had came here.

      >>50% More Active:

      What.

      Helpful People who could apply for rights:

      Active and trustworthy users can go sign up a app and we'll sorta have a talk with them. I don't remember anything about somewhat "More People", and never said anything about handing this wiki to the trolls.

        Loading editor
    • Godzillafan01, Xelrog and Metafawker know what they're talking about. Sorry I lumped you in there, Meta. My bad. Calsan, I ain't trying to villanize you. But we gotta calm down on blacklisted subjects. Rickomorrow, I like your idea. Make it an interactive thing.

        Loading editor
    • I, Da Cashman wrote:
      Godzillafan01, Xelrog and Metafawker know what they're talking about. Sorry I lumped you in there, Meta. My bad. Calsan, I ain't trying to villanize you. But we gotta calm down on blacklisted subjects. Rickomorrow, I like your idea. Make it an interactive thing.


      Not to sound like a jackass or anything, but, *GodzillaFan1

        Loading editor
    • GodzillaFan1 wrote:
      I, Da Cashman wrote:
      Godzillafan01, Xelrog and Metafawker know what they're talking about. Sorry I lumped you in there, Meta. My bad. Calsan, I ain't trying to villanize you. But we gotta calm down on blacklisted subjects. Rickomorrow, I like your idea. Make it an interactive thing.

      Not to sound like a jackass or anything, but, *GodzillaFan1

      My bad.

        Loading editor
    • I, Da Cashman wrote: Godzillafan01, Xelrog and Metafawker know what they're talking about. Sorry I lumped you in there, Meta. My bad. Calsan, I ain't trying to villanize you. But we gotta calm down on blacklisted subjects. Rickomorrow, I like your idea. Make it an interactive thing.

      Calasan* :3

      Understand when I say that Rick and I know what we're talking about as well. We can cool down on Blacklisted subjects, but we can't just not blacklist anything ever. If we did that, the original, creative, and good works get overshadowed by the cliched and bad spin offs. As stated, I don't want to blacklist stories and subjects - but sometimes we have to.

      Anyhow, I've talked with Rick about his idea. I'll be putting up a forum post on exactly how it will be carried out in a bit. It is subject to open discussion, so when it's posted, do not cause drama because of what may be in it. It can be changed.

        Loading editor
    • There are alot of good ideas folwing around here. But there is still alot to think about too.

        Loading editor
    • CalasanX wrote:

      I, Da Cashman wrote: Godzillafan01, Xelrog and Metafawker know what they're talking about. Sorry I lumped you in there, Meta. My bad. Calsan, I ain't trying to villanize you. But we gotta calm down on blacklisted subjects. Rickomorrow, I like your idea. Make it an interactive thing.

      Calasan* :3

      Understand when I say that Rick and I know what we're talking about as well. We can cool down on Blacklisted subjects, but we can't just not blacklist anything ever. If we did that, the original, creative, and good works get overshadowed by the cliched and bad spin offs. As stated, I don't want to blacklist stories and subjects - but sometimes we have to.

      That... happens just as much completely regardless of whether or not subjects are blacklisted. It's just an inevitable part of the struggle of maintaining this site.

      Anyway, I didn't have time to respond yesterday--as far as the poll idea goes, I think it would just complicate the process further without gaining us any real ground. We'd just encounter the same arguments all over again, and most likely, the majority would vote not to ban anything--which is against the interest of you, the staff.

      What if we were to create a "submission form" that applied to certain "quarantined" topics? Functionally, it's the same as the current ban-and-appeal system... but it seems a lot less oppressive when people aren't vying to be exceptions to the rules. The way it's set up now, it kind of feels like the Nazi party providing a Jew an audience to "prove he's one of the good ones." Make it seem like it's just a staff review process, rather than an attempt to "slip by" an implemented rule.

        Loading editor
    • Calsan, sorry, I poorly worded my last mesasge a bit. Of course you know what you're talking about - you're like, what, the most active user here? My apologies. I hope I didn't come off as too egotistical. Xelrog, you're right on the first paragraph, but this idea is going to serve as a good halfway point. At least we're getting everybody's opinions in. And if it ends up as useless, we'll re-adress it.

        Loading editor
    • I know that I'm new to this site, but if I may offer an opinion as someone who hates bad writing? I mean, from what it seems, these threads are mostly admins, but I have my personal take on the matter.

        Loading editor
    • Chromatic Wasp wrote: I know that I'm new to this site, but if I may offer an opinion as someone who hates bad writing? I mean, from what it seems, these threads are mostly admins, but I have my personal take on the matter.

      Feel free.

        Loading editor
    • Firstly, I'll get this out of the way; yes, this is partially because I've got a BEN pasta in the works. There, putting it out in the open.

      But more to the point, while I was thankful for the blacklisting of Sonic.exe (let's face facts, that pasta was the reason a lot of cliches became popular, and the only reason it gets away with all of its faults is because it was "first"), and I agree that "X the Killer" stories are an uninspired formula, but I don't see the problem with BEN stories. I mean, besides the obvious fact of the Internet; the bigger the fanbase, the more crap it'll churn out. But I feel like that blacklisting a pasta category is a tricky thing. Although I agree that Ben-spinoffs are very touchy sometimes, I think that, similar to the "X the Killer" formula, the problem is pastas stealing the Ben Drowned formula. Weird game = Bad things happening = much spooky, many scary, such doge. It's been done to death. But I feel like blacklisting an entire category is a bit of overkill. If you want to eliminate lazy, cliched or uninspired writing, believe me, I'd love you for it, but I feel that more cautious steps should be taken.

      But hey, what do I know? -shrugs-

        Loading editor
    • Chromatic Wasp wrote: Firstly, I'll get this out of the way; yes, this is partially because I've got a BEN pasta in the works. There, putting it out in the open.

      But more to the point, while I was thankful for the blacklisting of Sonic.exe (let's face facts, that pasta was the reason a lot of cliches became popular, and the only reason it gets away with all of its faults is because it was "first"), and I agree that "X the Killer" stories are an uninspired formula, but I don't see the problem with BEN stories. I mean, besides the obvious fact of the Internet; the bigger the fanbase, the more crap it'll churn out. But I feel like that blacklisting a pasta category is a tricky thing. Although I agree that Ben-spinoffs are very touchy sometimes, I think that, similar to the "X the Killer" formula, the problem is pastas stealing the Ben Drowned formula. Weird game = Bad things happening = much spooky, many scary, such doge. It's been done to death. But I feel like blacklisting an entire category is a bit of overkill. If you want to eliminate lazy, cliched or uninspired writing, believe me, I'd love you for it, but I feel that more cautious steps should be taken.

      But hey, what do I know? -shrugs-

      My primary issue with not blacklisting is that without that, we can't slow the traffic. I do think we need to get specific about it (For example, not the entire Jeff-Inspired, but the specific ones that are following too closely to the Jeff-formula) but the issue lies in the fact that people don't see how closely they end up following it.

      I admit, I most certainly didn't when I wrote my first pasta back in May. The only reason I didn't delete it is because the remaining series wouldn't make sense, and it had original elements.

      It's a big dilemma.

        Loading editor
    • Maybe like, a "So You Think You Can Spinpasta" boot-camp type thing?

      Basically, wannabe pastas in blacklisted categories would have to be approved before they can become full-fledged articles. Sort of like how YKTTW works on TV Tropes, where it needs a certain amount of "hats" (upvotes) before it can be approved. Believe me, this system is a LOT harder to break through than it sounds.

        Loading editor
    • But I agree that the words "hyper-realistic" is usually cause enough for an instant ban.

        Loading editor
    • Wow. Ignore me. I just discovered Ban Appeal. Would there be a Blacklist Appeal as well?

        Loading editor
    • Chromatic Wasp wrote: Wow. Ignore me. I just discovered Ban Appeal. Would there be a Blacklist Appeal as well?

      Yes. But the thing is, it wouldn't be a review by normal users. Admins would review it, because they have the par to know Quality Standards and such.

        Loading editor
    • Yeah. I would assume so. Sorry, I have a tendency to overthink things sometimes.

        Loading editor
    • I think I may have a solution.

      I saw this on CreepyPasta.com. If a creepyPasta someone submited to them was not a well writen one (like poor grammer or too cliche) they would be posted to the "CrappyPasta" page.

      Maybe we should make a page just for the Cliche CreepyPastas.

      Just call it ClichePasta 

        Loading editor
    • The problems with the ClichePasta idea is that, one, staff will still have to go through all these terrible pastas in order to sort them, which doesn't help the traffic situation... and, there are those cases where people intentionally write with the intention of getting onto Crappypasta. Same would likely be true for this.

      I like the idea of having a "marked for review" tag automatically applied to pastas in certain categories, which are withheld from actually being posted until they're reviewed... if we have the technology for that. I didn't suggest it before because I didn't think we did.

        Loading editor
    • Remember when large traffic was dealt with by adding more admins?

        Loading editor
    • That might make the ClichePasta page idea I mentioned earlier work after all.

      It will take alot of work to get it done too but it would be worth it in the end

        Loading editor
    • If we're just going to have more staff to go through them, why change anything? Why not just go on as we are now, deleting violations in the name of quality control?

      I just don't see the need to add a whole new site or section devoted to low-quality works. And while I would be in favor of adding more admins to deal with traffic, I think Calasan has mentioned that there's just a lack of qualified users right now who would be able to fill the need.

        Loading editor
    • As a refresher, what must one do to achieve administrative status?

        Loading editor
    • Chromatic Wasp wrote:
      As a refresher, what must one do to achieve administrative status?

      Look here: Spinpasta Wiki:Requests

        Loading editor
    • Oh dear...OH DEAR...HOW DO YOU PEOPLE MANAGE THIS?

      I was legitimately frightened by that.

      I'll try anyways?

      Maybe...Someday?

      (Probably after midterms XD)

        Loading editor
    • Chromatic Wasp wrote: Oh dear...OH DEAR...HOW DO YOU PEOPLE MANAGE THIS?

      I was legitimately frightened by that.

      I'll try anyways?

      Maybe...Someday?

      (Probably after midterms XD)

      Loyalty.

        Loading editor
    • Can we close this case? It's caused enough confusion already.

        Loading editor
    • That is very true.

      But have we found a solution yet?

        Loading editor
    • I personally like Xelrog's idea for the "Marked For Review" thing. Just my opinion.

        Loading editor
    • We haven't found a solution yet, so... no. Calasan seems to have taken a liking to Rick's poll suggestion. I still think we should be looking for other ideas, though.

        Loading editor
    • Well I think since this has gone on for so long we should review all the ideas givin so far and see what we can work off of.

        Loading editor
    • Woah boy. I can tell that this is a big mess here. So, I will leave my opinion on this form of matter.

      Obviously you can't blacklist Jeff-Themed stories on here, nor BEN (I believe that this may be covered too). Same with Lost Episodes. Lost Episodes, AUTOMATICALLY, should not be a blacklisted subject. If the drastic happens; a temporal ban on them should happen. I'd say... 1-2 months, the top. But not a permanent block on them. Because this, the pasta monsters, memes relating to them, theories, and video game pastas constantly being posted were a pest on the CP wiki. Though, I do agree on Sonic.exe being blacklisted 'cause - sorry to the fans of Sonic.exe that reside on this site - the article, sucked. In this matter, for cliches, I propose that we copu the cliche rules that are on the CPW, and paste them onto here. And, since the cliches tend to be a big matter, like the Article listing, we update the welcome that welcomes the user's on their talk page and user profiles to be on their profiles. Also, for File Extensions, just wait it out. Wait and see if the stories that brush on this topic improve. If not, then a temp block on the subject.

        Loading editor
    • I cannot argue with anything Fatal Disease said.

        Loading editor
    • Yea Fatal is right.

      This guy really knows what he is talking about.

        Loading editor
Give Kudos to this message
You've given this message Kudos!
See who gave Kudos to this message
Community content is available under CC-BY-SA unless otherwise noted.