User talk:Lavecki

Let me put it to you this way. I discussed this with Empy and Banning. The three options there were are: 1) Purge the wiki, starting essentially from scratch and rebuilding it with stricter standards. The logic that a story being exceptional means it doesn't need to be here doesn't stand - that's bullshit and everyone knows it. 2) Start a completely new site and just leave this one to die, or 3) just leave this one to die.

Administrators have real lives too. Hence why this purge is a day late - I was sick as hell last night. There are 2 of us here. Not only would that be insanely long if we took 24 hours per day doing it, but it would be impossible. What happens during activity influxes?

"Oh, stop the purge, deal with the influx!"

"Wait, what do you mean we have 40 more pages to read through? We only managed to delete 20 today!"

You know the problem with this being a site for just 'creatively flexing muscles'? The fact that people don't want to be creative with spin-offs. As I've noted before (and what keeps pulling me away from this place from the get-go), 80-90% of stories here follow the same formula. They take the same approach. They don't go for something that is new. They attempt to rehash all the same things done in the original.

We've tried overhauls. We've tried just going through and reading them all. Just 'accepting' that it's a place that will be full of 80% shit is about 99% of the reason that there are never any administrators here and this wiki is a ghost town 90% of the time. This site used to have almost 2000 stories, and clearing them off the way you suggest? That took over a year with a team of 7 admins and 5 RCaDC. That got it to 1200. That's with 12 people on site holding the power to delete pages.

I'm well aware of why at least 50% of people post their work here. They don't post it here because they want to improve it. They post it here because they're currently basically given the guarantee that they can post whatever they want and it won't get deleted. After all, 'it's just a spinoff, guize! Let them flex creatively!' they say as they make a Pokemon version of Squidward's Suicide. Is that to say that none of them wish to improve? No. That's to say that a lot of them don't give a shit, and that's because they have no reason to.

We have a Writer's Workshop board on this wiki. If people honest-to-god gave a shit about having good work on this site, that would be full of unreviewed just waiting to get the pass. It's not. Most people just directly post without a single shit about the QS.

Hence, purge it. Make the QS stricter. From then on, build the site back up but actually give a fuck. Make it a place where you actually can flex creatively and your work won't get buried in the 1500 rehashes of Jeff the Killer. Maintain a sense of actual quality, and getting rid of 80-90% of the shitty work here in one go is a damn good start that's been several times advocated before. Your Friendly Neighborhood Toddler (talk) 19:44, September 22, 2017 (UTC)