Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-4832646-20140607004850/@comment-5619531-20140608005836

Master Ceadeus 27 wrote: I think the idea is watch for users who deserve the position, rather than let them nominate themselves. There's good and bad sides to everything, I think. But here's the thing. If a user applies for a right, the bureaucrat/administrator can check their contributions and see if they are eligible. The user may not be recognized by the community, because I only check the recent wiki activity for pages, while the rest are just inactive (or that they just only care about one wiki, and that's the home wiki). I don't know who is a compatible editor, or who isn't, because I don't check that area. I only check the recent pages that users created, stroll around on random accounts, and the random page.

That's where the right process comes in. A user who I do not know about pops up on the "Requests for Rollback" page, and I check their contributions. If they have supports on the app and meet the prereqs, then I'll promote them. If they have opposes, and there's good reason for the oppose, or that they do not meet the prereqs, then I don't promote the user.

Xelrog T. Apocalypse wrote: I don't understand what the harm is in leaving them up. How does it hurt us as a wiki? Apparently, to respond to the view of the two bureaucrats voting support, this wiki is really "small" and "sleepy".

Towards the user that proposed this, there are three other reasons (I think). First reason: They are unused. The only users that have applied on there is Callie, myself, Mike, and Ultimate. Reason two: Users might be afraid to make an application. Third reason: There are good users on here who meet the editing prereqs, but they do not meet the time prereq (the time period that a user, who is applying, must meet before applying.)

My response on the reasons is that make a thread and highlight it. Make the applications well-known, rather than something as a decoration on the front page. Alert people who are afraid to make an application on the site that there is no need to fear making an app. If you get supports and no opposes (or bullshit opposes), and their contributions are good. Congrats, you'll be promoted to that right. If there are opposes that state reasons as to why you shouldn't have the right, and they are facts. Then the app is closed and you need to perfect on that one thing before you re-apply. It's nothing serious. It's critique. Everyone needs critique in their lives. Just perfect that, and you can re-apply. And, due to time reasons, why not just get rid of them? Why not get rid of the prereqs for having a certain right before applying for RCaDC and administrator? Only keep that the prereq for bureaucrat, which will be a right that no one will apply again, that you must have the administrator right.

This is unrelated: If this does get passed, I think that there shouldn't be any more administrators on the wiki. The deletion appeal is sleepy (so that makes me the only one doing all of it), and the fact that RCaDC can view the latest revision of the deleted article. Unless if they were stripped of this privilege, the deletion appeal is heavily active, and if the chat is active, I can see allowing more administrators on the site. Unless if it's not, then I don't see anymore RCaDC members being promoted into administrators.