User talk:Steam Phoenix/Archive 6

Creepy/Spinpasta Chat Test
So I heard about the "test period" for re-opening the CPW chat using SPW's as a testing ground. May I ask who's heading this endeavor, and who's making the new rules? If no one has done so, I would be willing to update the Chat Rules page, and if someone has been designated with that task, I'd like to share my concerns with that person.

It also might be worth noting that the entire chat community has pretty much migrated to Trollpasta, making the Spinpasta chat a barren wasteland. That said, this might not be the best testing ground without any guinea pigs. Xelrog T. Apocalypse 02:00, August 15, 2014 (UTC)

Chet
I need you to come on the chat. There's something that I need to talk to you about Do you hear that? That's the grape roaring   07:48, August 18, 2014 (UTC)

Two Things

 * 1) Can I create a Reality Category? There are some pages on here that can use the Reality category, but we don't have it. So can I create it?
 * 2) Can I update this so that it wouldn't be so messy, and can have some of the stuff from the CPW clichés rule?

Thanks ahead of times. Do you hear that? That's the grape roaring   02:08, August 19, 2014 (UTC)
 * Also another thing. Do I change my name back to blue, because I don't have my bureaucrat right at the moment. Or do I just leave it to red? Also, can I enact the policies like the Talk Etiquette, Blocking, and Article Comment policy on here, or do I have to propose them? Do you hear that? That's the grape roaring   02:14, August 19, 2014 (UTC)

Author Categories
So, pages tagged under Mario, Sonic, etc. don't get the Video Games tag. Pages tagged with MLP don't need the Television tag. Is it safe to assume, then, that pages with your CalasanX tag don't need Suggested Reading? What are your thoughts? I could ask the same about Classics and PotM, actually. I don't think any of these need Suggested if they're in their own categories.

I also don't really think Cherilee's Garden needs the Classics category. Really, the only MLP pasta that's huge/widely spread enough for that is Cupcakes. Xelrog T. Apocalypse 13:24, August 20, 2014 (UTC)


 * All of the categories I mentioned are listed as subcategories of Suggested Reading according to the Category Listingundefined page. Xelrog T. Apocalypse 19:27, August 20, 2014 (UTC)

flibba
Hey, can you come on the chat for a little bit, if you can? I wanna talk about a few things that will happen in the future, and stuff that is occurring right now for the site. Thanks. Do you hear that? That's the grape roaring   22:47, August 21, 2014 (UTC)
 * Yeah. We need to talk. Do you hear that? That's the grape roaring   23:09, August 21, 2014 (UTC)

How do you edit your signature I want to know Thelegomannick 18:32, August 24, 2014 (UTC) Thelegomannick

Policy in the Rights Interests
You actually broke one of the policies on this wiki for the rights interest board.

All bureaucrat apps are automatically given a month trial before they are shut down, and the user is granted the right. This doesn't mean that the app can be pushed up because they're having a lack of vote/recognition on the wiki. The only exception for ending it so quickly is that if the bureaucrat feels that there are a good amount of bureaucrats on the wiki, and there shouldn't be anymore.

Bureaucrat apps aren't treated to be pushed up if they have a lack of vote like the other rights. Sure, I do understand that there can be a need for the position, but it's one of those jobs that, despite the need, it's needed to be waited by the boss and the worker to be promoted on. Not just given out because people aren't recognizing the app.

It even says in the Right Interest Rules that a bureaucrat app isn't supposed to be given a sooner date because of lack of votes. Here are the link to the rules, it says that Other than a proposal for bureaucrat, if any proposal is getting a lack of vote, it may be pushed up to a sooner date upon bureaucrat's discretion. Which means that they shouldn't be given the right early. Just telling you that you shouldn't do this again if there is a need for another one. <strong style="color: blue; font: Comic-Sans;">Do you hear that? <strong style="color: green; font: Comic-Sans;">That's the grape roaring   04:36, August 27, 2014 (UTC)
 * That's why I added it a month, because of the deadline on Xelrogs app. I thought "Oh. She's gave Xelrog a month for the deadline of the app, so I'm taking a guess that it's a month instead of 20 days like we agreed upon. Oh well." Change it to twenty days for the deadline on the RI rules, please. And to not cause confusion, make the deadline on an app within 20 days of creation. <span style="padding: 0px 5px 0px 5px; border: Solid 2px ; background: ; -moz-border-radius: 0em 0em 0em 0em; -webkit-border-radius: 0em 0em 0em 0em; border-radius: 0em 0em 0em 0em;"><strong style="color: blue; font: Comic-Sans;">Do you hear that? <strong style="color: green; font: Comic-Sans;">That's the grape roaring   04:51, August 27, 2014 (UTC)

If I can't post Pasta's with Cliche here. Where can I? Trollpasta Wiki? If not can you suggest?Percydercymercy2 (talk) 18:33, August 28, 2014 (UTC)

Cliché
Mind updating the Cliché rules with the one's on CPW, but add a few more stuff like the MLP clichés, "Stupid is the main character" clichés on Lost Episodes and Video Games, and remove the examples from CPW's as you're importing them. Because I don't really want to do it because of the reasons as I said before, and because I'm taking a brief break from the site. This is pretty much the only time that I'm doing anything because this category needs to be removed. So, can you? <span style="padding: 0px 5px 0px 5px; border: Solid 2px ; background: ; -moz-border-radius: 0em 0em 0em 0em; -webkit-border-radius: 0em 0em 0em 0em; border-radius: 0em 0em 0em 0em;"><strong style="color: blue; font: Comic-Sans;">Do you hear that? <strong style="color: green; font: Comic-Sans;">That's the grape roaring   01:15, August 31, 2014 (UTC)
 * Actually, nevermind. I updated them, since you didn't respond to this message and with the previous situation where you allowed me to update them. Also, can you leave your input on this? Thread:15611undefined. Thanks. <span style="padding: 0px 5px 0px 5px; border: Solid 2px ; background: ; -moz-border-radius: 0em 0em 0em 0em; -webkit-border-radius: 0em 0em 0em 0em; border-radius: 0em 0em 0em 0em;"><strong style="color: blue; font: Comic-Sans;">Do you hear that? <strong style="color: green; font: Comic-Sans;">That's the grape roaring   02:38, August 31, 2014 (UTC)

Can I Ask You This?
I know that there are other stuff going on that needs your attention, but does that mean that you need to avoid some messages that users make? This isn't directed towards me all the time, we also have Percy and a few other users. Percy asked you where he can post cliche pastas at, and you just ignored the message. It wasn't until I had to respond to his question that was directed towards you to answer. And there are some more examples where people had asked for help from you, but you weren't there at all to help them out.

That's kind of an issue between most of the admins. Sure, they shouldn't be rushed to respond to these messages or forced to get on because they have a question, but they should be able to respond to them within the time that they're on that day. Not just ignore them. And I know that there are other stuff that needs to be done, but in a community where you're an admin/bureaucrat on, you should respond to all of the messages that you receive. Not just set them aside because they're stupid, or that you don't want to do it. The users and their questions come first here and on any other community, not other projects that have a community consensus. The users and their needs come first. Speaking of which, when's that collaboration project for here supposed to start? <span style="padding: 0px 5px 0px 5px; border: Solid 2px ; background: ; -moz-border-radius: 0em 0em 0em 0em; -webkit-border-radius: 0em 0em 0em 0em; border-radius: 0em 0em 0em 0em;"><strong style="color: blue; font: Comic-Sans;">Do you hear that? <strong style="color: green; font: Comic-Sans;">That's the grape roaring  20:03, August 31, 2014 (UTC)


 * I'm inclined to agree. I certainly felt ignored on CPW when both Cleric and Skelly paid no response to my message after weeks. If it's any easier, admins can direct questions towards me. My talk page is practically empty; no users have come to me with questions at all.


 * As for the collab project, I wouldn't be surprised if the Spinpasta one were cancelled. I certainly wouldn't complain. There just didn't seem to be enough interest over here to merit one, the way there was on CPW. Xelrog T. Apocalypse 22:00, August 31, 2014 (UTC)
 * I feel that the one for here should be cancelled. Checking the thread announcing it, no one hasn't left a comment on it since August 14th. And assuming that you're caring solely on the CPW collaboration, the collaboration project for here wouldn't be updated until a very long time. <span style="padding: 0px 5px 0px 5px; border: Solid 2px ; background: ; -moz-border-radius: 0em 0em 0em 0em; -webkit-border-radius: 0em 0em 0em 0em; border-radius: 0em 0em 0em 0em;"><strong style="color: blue; font: Comic-Sans;">Do you hear that? <strong style="color: green; font: Comic-Sans;">That's the grape roaring  22:49, August 31, 2014 (UTC)


 * I'm not responding to messages that don't follow my rules in my talk header. Frankly, if one can't even read that, then why should I respond? They may not read it.
 * I'm not going to answer a question I've answered a million times from the same person.
 * The SP project is pretty much canceled. Lack of interest.
 * At the moment, I'm barely on for long enough to answer messages.
 * Do not lecture me. You are in no position to do so, so I will only ask you once to stop. You've been doing it alot lately, and frankly, it's getting irritating. @Fatal <strong style="color: #9ed9f7;">Dashie  ~20% Cooler~  23:43, August 31, 2014 (UTC)
 * Ah. After some time of googling it, I guess I have been lecturing. But keep in mind that my opinions come out in that tone most of the time (since I do want people to be on my side unless if they give a compromise on it). The first paragraph can be a lecture, because you do ignore messages (why, messages that don't have the same guidelines as your talk header [ex. Talk page on your sandbox.) Which now is explainable because you said that the time that you have on here is being cut short. But the second paragraph is an opinion on what I think, and all the other opinions that I have expressed. So, yeah. It's all opinions expressed in a reproving tone, I guess. Or that I am unsure if what I'm doing is a lecture, since most of the time I feel like that it isn't a lecture until said so. <span style="padding: 0px 5px 0px 5px; border: Solid 2px ; background: ; -moz-border-radius: 0em 0em 0em 0em; -webkit-border-radius: 0em 0em 0em 0em; border-radius: 0em 0em 0em 0em;"><strong style="color: blue; font: Comic-Sans;">Do you hear that? <strong style="color: green; font: Comic-Sans;">That's the grape roaring   04:37, September 1, 2014 (UTC)

Input
Can you leave a plot suggestion in this thread, please? I don't really want it to die off after it has been posted. I guess I am willing to run it because I want to see that this gets interested, rather than being dropped because no one was willing to run it. So, can you do that? <span style="padding: 0px 5px 0px 5px; border: Solid 2px ; background: ; -moz-border-radius: 0em 0em 0em 0em; -webkit-border-radius: 0em 0em 0em 0em; border-radius: 0em 0em 0em 0em;"><strong style="color: blue; font: Comic-Sans;">Do you hear that? <strong style="color: green; font: Comic-Sans;">That's the grape roaring   13:42, September 1, 2014 (UTC)